Wanting to be someone, after all, may not be incompatible with sexual desire, and identification and desire can alternate or be experienced simultaneously for some people.
A rare miss on your part. You’re failing to recognize the far greater cultural significance of this moment. Men with a fetish (autogynephilia) that few know of and which it has been taboo to discuss have brought us to a moment in America where, among other things, heterosexual men with penises are sharing locker rooms with and competing against biological women in sports and only a populist rightwing party run by hucksters protested. The Trump campaign incessantly ran ads in the swing state of Pennsylvania where black men rolled their eyes at a clip of Kamala Harris advocating that prisons provide sex changes and allow natal males in female prisons. The ads were quite effective.
Well, autogynephelia is now out in the open.
Far from identifying with the character’s sexuality, the educated upper-middle-class liberal viewers of ‘White Lotus’ are confronting something they never imagined. Some may now even wonder if perhaps contemporary “trans rights” aren’t necessarily the great progressive civil rights struggle they bought into. Maybe JK Rowling isn’t simply an evil bigot.
Darian's post was nuanced, thought-provoking, and unequivocally curious. Your comment is drowning in the muddy pit that is the culture war. Go outside, breathe a little, and chill out.
Nice try! ! Leader (alas, I’m not on a first name basis) writes “Walter Groggins listens to Rockwell’s monologue open-mouthed and clearly in shock, his disbelief represents that of many male viewers, who are stunned to see their own psychical truth being unveiled.”
That’s not all at all what’s happening for most male viewers. Far from it.
In fact, most are being repulsed while being presented with the latest tenet of contemporary liberalism shown not as a civil rights issue but as a sleazy example of wealthy, western, male arrogance, presumption & entitlement. Many, of course, would toss in the word “colonial” here too, but we can let it pass.
Leader is not simply mistaken, which he is, he’s missing the far greater cultural significance of this moment. And he is reflecting on why the monologue is getting so much attention. That’s his premise, after all. He even begins by explaining not just the show, but its audience and cultural relevance in America.
Your snide response is not just remarkably oblivious, but also smug and hackneyed (person telling you something you don’t want to hear is simply a tiresome cultural warrior who needs to go outside, chill out and breathe fresh air while you get back to the nuance and “thought-provoking” you so enjoy.)
Honestly, I thought the scene was pure comedy. It was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in ages. Goggins goggles at his once friend. About as far as how he was expecting the evening to go as is possible.
Thank you for this article I must exa.ine it much more but as far I can estimate the idea of men and sex axconquest illustrated in Micheal Lewis book Liars Poker success is nickname the "Big Swinging Dick " said with glee in a constant state of heat imaginations of being the sexual predator has erupted since a man's first wet dream ( Excuse Me ) I believe men rely on an outter perception more than woman and at once we are the after thought Angela Davis has written a book about Feminism and the Blues who lyric were a manifesto on female satisfaction unabashed and there fir the taking The one song seems to me the equalizer in male and female sexuality not passive seduction or coy entering and acting surprises in the act of nothing going nowhere Bessie Smith hollered DO YOUR DUTY I believe that levels the playing ground unapologetically sorry long text and thank you for acpath of more examinations on human sexuality peace love blessing and of course the race for the feel good feel good. Thank you
I sometimes forget that not everyone has been exposed to the same horrors that I have, which is my way of saying that, if you read on from here, then you do so at your own peril.
Although I am unfamiliar with The White Lotus, I have watched the scene in question. It did not shock me. I have witnessed this sentiment expressed many times before online, couched in very similar language. It would not surprise me if the writers for the show drew from sources that are familiar to me.
For my sins, I am an occasional visitor to a notorious and widely-misrepresented website called the Kiwi Farms. The purpose of the site is to document the activities of 'lolcows' – public figures whose foolish and often horrifying behaviour, coupled by a seeming inability to learn from their mistakes, marks them as persons of interest and amusement. The Farms were initially established as a record of the bizarre activities of one Chris Weston Chandler, who was jailed a few years ago after confessing to having had sex with his frail, 80-year-old, dementia-ridden mother. He has since been released.
Coincidentally, as of today, the Kiwi Farms is no longer accessible in Kier Starmer's burgeoning dystopia; a casualty of the Online Safety Act, whose aim appears to be to stifle dissenting voices and opinions. Of course, the site can still be accessed via TOR or through a VPN.
Autogynephilia – the male sexual fantasy of 'being the girl' is a common thread in the psychological make-up of many lolcows. It is so common in fact that it is easy to spot the individuals who are going to develop autogynephilia long before they publicly express any such tendencies. My perception on this matter may well have been negatively skewed, but I have come to regard the condition as a gutter ball for terminally porn-sick individuals. I sound like a prude and I'm not. Up to a point I have an unsavoury sexual history and then I backed off, before the compulsion to don a French maid's outfit poked its lacy mob cap up through my subconscious.
The Autogynephiles who are of interest to the Kiwi Farms are grotesques, often ludicrous and/or dangerous individuals.
At their most innocuous is a man who, according to a former girlfriend, enjoys the Dadaist sexual thrill of being fucked in the arse by a strap-on while dressed as a purple cow named Juju. He has said that sometimes, when watching porn, he imagines being the girl and that he believes this to be a common sexual fantasy among men.
At the loathsome end of this spectrum is an ogrish specimen whose autogynephilia resulted in them undergoing a full sexual transition. Their personal hygiene was so questionable that, following the operation, their 'clitoris' went missing in action and is widely assumed to have rotted and fallen off.
This latter case highlights one of the tragic pitfalls of autogynephilia. I am aware of instances where men mistook the sexual fantasy of being a women as an indication that they were a woman trapped inside a man's body. They only realised that this was not the case after they had undergone full sexual transition and been divested of the male libido that had fuelled their autogynephilia. I speculate that this may be the cause of some of the suicides among post-op transsexuals.
The interesting thing is that the source of your warped state of mind is why Kiwi Farms found you and I come away with not being disgusted at anything you described but instead rolling my eyes and continuing to remind myself that people who go to Kiwi Farms are people I need not bother engaging with, especially when they start talking about trans people.
As a straight guy I’ve long wondered what sex is like for a partner. In what way is it fundamentally different? Are their orgasms different in quality. Don’t men actually have the better experience in its overall satisfaction?
A rare miss on your part. You’re failing to recognize the far greater cultural significance of this moment. Men with a fetish (autogynephilia) that few know of and which it has been taboo to discuss have brought us to a moment in America where, among other things, heterosexual men with penises are sharing locker rooms with and competing against biological women in sports and only a populist rightwing party run by hucksters protested. The Trump campaign incessantly ran ads in the swing state of Pennsylvania where black men rolled their eyes at a clip of Kamala Harris advocating that prisons provide sex changes and allow natal males in female prisons. The ads were quite effective.
Well, autogynephelia is now out in the open.
Far from identifying with the character’s sexuality, the educated upper-middle-class liberal viewers of ‘White Lotus’ are confronting something they never imagined. Some may now even wonder if perhaps contemporary “trans rights” aren’t necessarily the great progressive civil rights struggle they bought into. Maybe JK Rowling isn’t simply an evil bigot.
Darian's post was nuanced, thought-provoking, and unequivocally curious. Your comment is drowning in the muddy pit that is the culture war. Go outside, breathe a little, and chill out.
Nice try! ! Leader (alas, I’m not on a first name basis) writes “Walter Groggins listens to Rockwell’s monologue open-mouthed and clearly in shock, his disbelief represents that of many male viewers, who are stunned to see their own psychical truth being unveiled.”
That’s not all at all what’s happening for most male viewers. Far from it.
In fact, most are being repulsed while being presented with the latest tenet of contemporary liberalism shown not as a civil rights issue but as a sleazy example of wealthy, western, male arrogance, presumption & entitlement. Many, of course, would toss in the word “colonial” here too, but we can let it pass.
Leader is not simply mistaken, which he is, he’s missing the far greater cultural significance of this moment. And he is reflecting on why the monologue is getting so much attention. That’s his premise, after all. He even begins by explaining not just the show, but its audience and cultural relevance in America.
Your snide response is not just remarkably oblivious, but also smug and hackneyed (person telling you something you don’t want to hear is simply a tiresome cultural warrior who needs to go outside, chill out and breathe fresh air while you get back to the nuance and “thought-provoking” you so enjoy.)
You have 2 working brain cells and both are hanging on by a thread. You need help
Bradford and Walton Goggins nailed it! Fantastic. That’s an 8 minute monologue, by the way— no joke.
Honestly, I thought the scene was pure comedy. It was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in ages. Goggins goggles at his once friend. About as far as how he was expecting the evening to go as is possible.
Thank you for this article I must exa.ine it much more but as far I can estimate the idea of men and sex axconquest illustrated in Micheal Lewis book Liars Poker success is nickname the "Big Swinging Dick " said with glee in a constant state of heat imaginations of being the sexual predator has erupted since a man's first wet dream ( Excuse Me ) I believe men rely on an outter perception more than woman and at once we are the after thought Angela Davis has written a book about Feminism and the Blues who lyric were a manifesto on female satisfaction unabashed and there fir the taking The one song seems to me the equalizer in male and female sexuality not passive seduction or coy entering and acting surprises in the act of nothing going nowhere Bessie Smith hollered DO YOUR DUTY I believe that levels the playing ground unapologetically sorry long text and thank you for acpath of more examinations on human sexuality peace love blessing and of course the race for the feel good feel good. Thank you
I sometimes forget that not everyone has been exposed to the same horrors that I have, which is my way of saying that, if you read on from here, then you do so at your own peril.
Although I am unfamiliar with The White Lotus, I have watched the scene in question. It did not shock me. I have witnessed this sentiment expressed many times before online, couched in very similar language. It would not surprise me if the writers for the show drew from sources that are familiar to me.
For my sins, I am an occasional visitor to a notorious and widely-misrepresented website called the Kiwi Farms. The purpose of the site is to document the activities of 'lolcows' – public figures whose foolish and often horrifying behaviour, coupled by a seeming inability to learn from their mistakes, marks them as persons of interest and amusement. The Farms were initially established as a record of the bizarre activities of one Chris Weston Chandler, who was jailed a few years ago after confessing to having had sex with his frail, 80-year-old, dementia-ridden mother. He has since been released.
Coincidentally, as of today, the Kiwi Farms is no longer accessible in Kier Starmer's burgeoning dystopia; a casualty of the Online Safety Act, whose aim appears to be to stifle dissenting voices and opinions. Of course, the site can still be accessed via TOR or through a VPN.
Autogynephilia – the male sexual fantasy of 'being the girl' is a common thread in the psychological make-up of many lolcows. It is so common in fact that it is easy to spot the individuals who are going to develop autogynephilia long before they publicly express any such tendencies. My perception on this matter may well have been negatively skewed, but I have come to regard the condition as a gutter ball for terminally porn-sick individuals. I sound like a prude and I'm not. Up to a point I have an unsavoury sexual history and then I backed off, before the compulsion to don a French maid's outfit poked its lacy mob cap up through my subconscious.
The Autogynephiles who are of interest to the Kiwi Farms are grotesques, often ludicrous and/or dangerous individuals.
At their most innocuous is a man who, according to a former girlfriend, enjoys the Dadaist sexual thrill of being fucked in the arse by a strap-on while dressed as a purple cow named Juju. He has said that sometimes, when watching porn, he imagines being the girl and that he believes this to be a common sexual fantasy among men.
At the loathsome end of this spectrum is an ogrish specimen whose autogynephilia resulted in them undergoing a full sexual transition. Their personal hygiene was so questionable that, following the operation, their 'clitoris' went missing in action and is widely assumed to have rotted and fallen off.
This latter case highlights one of the tragic pitfalls of autogynephilia. I am aware of instances where men mistook the sexual fantasy of being a women as an indication that they were a woman trapped inside a man's body. They only realised that this was not the case after they had undergone full sexual transition and been divested of the male libido that had fuelled their autogynephilia. I speculate that this may be the cause of some of the suicides among post-op transsexuals.
The interesting thing is that the source of your warped state of mind is why Kiwi Farms found you and I come away with not being disgusted at anything you described but instead rolling my eyes and continuing to remind myself that people who go to Kiwi Farms are people I need not bother engaging with, especially when they start talking about trans people.
As a straight guy I’ve long wondered what sex is like for a partner. In what way is it fundamentally different? Are their orgasms different in quality. Don’t men actually have the better experience in its overall satisfaction?
Only one way to find out :).
Gay men often experience both topping and bottoming and preferences can change with age and who one meets.